This story, which is unique to Luke, is a bit of a gem among call narratives. If this is taken from Jeremiah 16:16 it could well be implying judgment, not salvation.
This is further supported if one embraces the hypothesis that the author of canonical Luke knew John’s gospel and was blending John’s last chapter with the calling in Mark. .
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In this section a first obstacle to Simon’s relationship with Jesus appears. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect(E) complained to his disciples, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”(F), 31 Jesus answered them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. It may be divided into three distinct sections: vv. Surely if Jesus was a good person he wanted to surround himself with other nice people, not nasty, bad people like Matthew?! Is it my imagination or is there really a sequential narrative development that I see here? Musings on biblical studies, politics, religion, ethics, human nature, tidbits from science. Wrong. Click the following link to visit our Multimedia section.
Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. A. So, please continue to delve deeply and share this intellectual sustenance with your grateful readers.”, — Mary Booker, – February 2020 (personal email), “I’d like to thank you for this very nice representation of what I was trying to show in the book. Matthew 4:18-22 18) And walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers—Simon who is called Peter and Andrew his brother—casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.
I do think there is a structure that holds these episodes together in Mark, but it is not at the narrative level, and is another topic for another time. 4-7): When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, “Put out into the deep water and let down your nets for a catch.” Simon answered, “Master, we have worked all night long but have caught nothing. It reflects well on you. a MATT. Just as it is possible that Jesus cleansed the temple twice (see Lyons, 2004), it is very possible that Jesus may have told His disciples twice that they would be fishers of men: the first time recorded by Matthew (4:18-22) and Mark (1:16-20), and then a second time recorded by Luke (5:1-11). In this first scene Jesus is doing just as he told the crowds in 4:42-43, that is, he is proclaiming the good news of the coming of the kingdom, mentioned for the first time in Luke in 4:43. And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. He wanted people who were greedy, to understand they needed to become generous.
It’s from then that the Nag Hammadi collection (hidden during a time of such persecution) dates. The resurrected Jesus opens their understanding to the Jewish scriptures that were said to be prophetic of him, and he commands them to remain in Jerusalem until they are given heavenly power.
Repetition of the form (call narrative) and the sin motif links this story to that Levi in 5:27-32. Which isn’t very nice is it. Through the years, you’ve probably had some big dreams for yourself. Secondly, the Luke 5 lake scene is not a calling of the disciples as it is in Mark’s gospel. (I’m rolling with the general view that the author of Luke’s gospel knew and copied much from Mark’s gospel.). who you want me to meet, 10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. ( Log Out / And in other areas too: Why does Jesus mention his deeds at Capernaum before he is said to have entered Capernaum? Nevertheless, Peter does as he is asked.
So when Peter is commanded to cast his net in the sea and he replies, “At your word I will do it”, it is plausibly to think that the reader is meant to understand that Peter already knows the power of Jesus’ word. Indeed Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. Consider also that even prior to Matthew and Mark’s accounts of Jesus calling Peter and Andrew to become fishers of men, these two fishermen had already previously “followed” Jesus (John 1:35-42; see Lyons, 2007). Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Also, send me the Latter-day Saint Newsletter and special offers.
Did the synoptic writers all refer to the same calling in these passages? to the Emperor (set aside), and the rest is mine, right? Lyons, Eric (2004), “Chronology and the Cleansing of the Temple,” [On-line], URL: http://apologeticspress.org/articles/528. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
The most we can see here is that Jesus, logically, calls Peter for the first time before joining him in his house.
Indeed, as Augustin goes on, he is led more and more to accept the order of the other evangelists.--R. This oversight has been corrected. When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. But Jesus asks this bad person Matthew to go with him and be his friend. In fact, Godfrey is extremely well read and his librarian skills have brought many important academic works to my attention.
be and do good. Nevertheless, all four Gospels record at least 18 of the same short narratives. And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net. The Bible does not describe the calling of the other five disciples. So what is the answer to the question?
(See the Infancy Narratives discussion and the Body of Luke discussion. Please carry on.”. Bible writers often arranged things differently because of their different purposes in writing. Give it back! Also, send me the Latter-day Saint Newsletter. Read the bible story from the Lion’s Children’s Bible. Although I tend to believe that these are two different callings, with Matthew and Mark recording an earlier encounter, and Luke a later one, one simply cannot be certain about the matter. Note that I do not use the term ‘amateur’ pejoratively. happen to be some of the most astute and well-read amateurs you can read on the internet on the subject of biblical historicity. 9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. Talbert also observes that with Luke’s narrative the disciples are supplied with a reason to believe in Jesus and follow him. And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! .
9:9 ).
Levi, however, will not be among those listed as the twelve chosen disciples (6:14-16), indicating that the requirement for single-minded service, that is, placing the kingdom ahead of all else, is not limited to the elite ranks of discipleship. Best, Emanuel, “Here I give an admittedly subjective short list, in random order, of useful, high level and regularly updated weblogs on the study of the Old Testament . Welcome to a Thanksgiving like none ever. We’re celebrating the Feast of St. Matthew today because he became one of Jesus’ special friends, someone who saw Jesus after he was killed on the cross and rose again at Easter, and went on to tell lots and lots of other people how the love of Jesus had changed his life. And Luke elsewhere repeats the theme of needing labourers for the spiritual harvest.
Crowds become too much for the prophet or apostle. THE CALL OF MATTHEW. Simon and his associates will be able to accept this proposal; although they could catch no fish on their own, their “fishing” efforts as partners of Jesus will result in a great “catch.”.
Helpers are marshaled in response to the growing need for help given the escalating success of Jesus’ ministry.
So I’ve got… count coins… and here’s me giving ….. count half the coins…. . In either case, we can be sure that no discrepancies exist among these accounts—only differences that we would expect to find from inspired, independent writers.
The final time Jesus called Peter and the other fishermen is recorded in Luke 5:1-11. And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon.
This is further supported if one embraces the hypothesis that the author of canonical Luke knew John’s gospel and was blending John’s last chapter with the calling in Mark. .
Filed under: Biblical Studies, New Testament
In this section a first obstacle to Simon’s relationship with Jesus appears. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. 30 But the Pharisees and the teachers of the law who belonged to their sect(E) complained to his disciples, “Why do you eat and drink with tax collectors and sinners?”(F), 31 Jesus answered them, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. It may be divided into three distinct sections: vv. Surely if Jesus was a good person he wanted to surround himself with other nice people, not nasty, bad people like Matthew?! Is it my imagination or is there really a sequential narrative development that I see here? Musings on biblical studies, politics, religion, ethics, human nature, tidbits from science. Wrong. Click the following link to visit our Multimedia section.
Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. A. So, please continue to delve deeply and share this intellectual sustenance with your grateful readers.”, — Mary Booker, – February 2020 (personal email), “I’d like to thank you for this very nice representation of what I was trying to show in the book. Matthew 4:18-22 18) And walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers—Simon who is called Peter and Andrew his brother—casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email.
I do think there is a structure that holds these episodes together in Mark, but it is not at the narrative level, and is another topic for another time. 4-7): When he had finished speaking, he said to Simon, “Put out into the deep water and let down your nets for a catch.” Simon answered, “Master, we have worked all night long but have caught nothing. It reflects well on you. a MATT. Just as it is possible that Jesus cleansed the temple twice (see Lyons, 2004), it is very possible that Jesus may have told His disciples twice that they would be fishers of men: the first time recorded by Matthew (4:18-22) and Mark (1:16-20), and then a second time recorded by Luke (5:1-11). In this first scene Jesus is doing just as he told the crowds in 4:42-43, that is, he is proclaiming the good news of the coming of the kingdom, mentioned for the first time in Luke in 4:43. And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. He wanted people who were greedy, to understand they needed to become generous.
It’s from then that the Nag Hammadi collection (hidden during a time of such persecution) dates. The resurrected Jesus opens their understanding to the Jewish scriptures that were said to be prophetic of him, and he commands them to remain in Jerusalem until they are given heavenly power.
Repetition of the form (call narrative) and the sin motif links this story to that Levi in 5:27-32. Which isn’t very nice is it. Through the years, you’ve probably had some big dreams for yourself. Secondly, the Luke 5 lake scene is not a calling of the disciples as it is in Mark’s gospel. (I’m rolling with the general view that the author of Luke’s gospel knew and copied much from Mark’s gospel.). who you want me to meet, 10 While Jesus was having dinner at Matthew’s house, many tax collectors and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples. ( Log Out / And in other areas too: Why does Jesus mention his deeds at Capernaum before he is said to have entered Capernaum? Nevertheless, Peter does as he is asked.
So when Peter is commanded to cast his net in the sea and he replies, “At your word I will do it”, it is plausibly to think that the reader is meant to understand that Peter already knows the power of Jesus’ word. Indeed Satan has asked for you, that he may sift you as wheat. Consider also that even prior to Matthew and Mark’s accounts of Jesus calling Peter and Andrew to become fishers of men, these two fishermen had already previously “followed” Jesus (John 1:35-42; see Lyons, 2007). Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Also, send me the Latter-day Saint Newsletter and special offers.
Did the synoptic writers all refer to the same calling in these passages? to the Emperor (set aside), and the rest is mine, right? Lyons, Eric (2004), “Chronology and the Cleansing of the Temple,” [On-line], URL: http://apologeticspress.org/articles/528. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink.
The most we can see here is that Jesus, logically, calls Peter for the first time before joining him in his house.
Indeed, as Augustin goes on, he is led more and more to accept the order of the other evangelists.--R. This oversight has been corrected. When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. But Jesus asks this bad person Matthew to go with him and be his friend. In fact, Godfrey is extremely well read and his librarian skills have brought many important academic works to my attention.
be and do good. Nevertheless, all four Gospels record at least 18 of the same short narratives. And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net. The Bible does not describe the calling of the other five disciples. So what is the answer to the question?
(See the Infancy Narratives discussion and the Body of Luke discussion. Please carry on.”. Bible writers often arranged things differently because of their different purposes in writing. Give it back! Also, send me the Latter-day Saint Newsletter. Read the bible story from the Lion’s Children’s Bible. Although I tend to believe that these are two different callings, with Matthew and Mark recording an earlier encounter, and Luke a later one, one simply cannot be certain about the matter. Note that I do not use the term ‘amateur’ pejoratively. happen to be some of the most astute and well-read amateurs you can read on the internet on the subject of biblical historicity. 9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. Talbert also observes that with Luke’s narrative the disciples are supplied with a reason to believe in Jesus and follow him. And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him. Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! .
9:9 ).
Levi, however, will not be among those listed as the twelve chosen disciples (6:14-16), indicating that the requirement for single-minded service, that is, placing the kingdom ahead of all else, is not limited to the elite ranks of discipleship. Best, Emanuel, “Here I give an admittedly subjective short list, in random order, of useful, high level and regularly updated weblogs on the study of the Old Testament . Welcome to a Thanksgiving like none ever. We’re celebrating the Feast of St. Matthew today because he became one of Jesus’ special friends, someone who saw Jesus after he was killed on the cross and rose again at Easter, and went on to tell lots and lots of other people how the love of Jesus had changed his life. And Luke elsewhere repeats the theme of needing labourers for the spiritual harvest.
Crowds become too much for the prophet or apostle. THE CALL OF MATTHEW. Simon and his associates will be able to accept this proposal; although they could catch no fish on their own, their “fishing” efforts as partners of Jesus will result in a great “catch.”.
Helpers are marshaled in response to the growing need for help given the escalating success of Jesus’ ministry.
So I’ve got… count coins… and here’s me giving ….. count half the coins…. . In either case, we can be sure that no discrepancies exist among these accounts—only differences that we would expect to find from inspired, independent writers.
The final time Jesus called Peter and the other fishermen is recorded in Luke 5:1-11. And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon.