How that analysis is done depends on how the bishop (and likely the commission that would be set up to investigate) approaches it. They immediately notified the metropolitan archbishop of Bialystok, Edward Ozorowski, who went to Sokolka with the chancellor of the Curia and other diocesan officials. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. "Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, 'Take, eat; this is my body.' And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, 'Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.'" (Matthew 26:26-28) This is so exciting, one of the best . Although in the interest of recognizing the importance of faith, Jesus probably decided to have the piece of heart tissue be genetically identical to pig heart. God bless you! One week later, they had changed into a red substance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk. And even though I may have accidentally implied it, when I said something freaky I actaully just meant the whole wafer-then-flesh deal, whether it was a naturalistic and horribly corrupt human switch, or a supernaturalistic and divine switch. its in polish so i would use google translate or something like that. Wow, this is so very sad indeedI feel kinda sick now just reading it, I videotaped an angelic being back in 1989Big deal!!! Catholic Christianity offers the world the fullness of the Christian Faith. She is very religious, claims Professor Lech Chyczewski, head of the blood unit at the Bialystok hospital. The first registered Eucharistic miracle of the 21st century took place in the Polish city of Sokolka on October 12, 2008, when a priest accidentally dropped a consecrated Host. 3) Do we know the identity of the man whose remains were found? And if this priest is claiming that a cracker turned into a piece of heart before his eyes, he must be on some serious drugs. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. It's FREE! They issued a common declaration stating: The sample sent for evaluation looks like myocardial tissue. Leo Patalinghug and many more. Whenever the economy in Scotland goes from bad to worse, the Nessie sightings go up. Is the evidence compatible with a fraud? Do Eucharistic Miracles happen regularly? This fame persisted relatively unquestioned until 1995, when Dr. Luigi Garlaschelli, a chemistry researcher at the University of Pavia, debunked the miracle. The miraculous host along with a chalice of wine that turned into blood at the same time, remain incorrupt to this day. All Rights Reserved. If there are no online copies of the report submitted to the Curia of Bialystok, it would be incredible if somebody who is either a Polish citizen, or speaks Polish, could perhaps submit an inquiry to their parish priest/diocesan bishop, to see if the report could be released to the faithful (even if it is only in Polish). Ridiculous. What if God had planned to work through human cloning to bring Jesus back through exactly this kind of transubstantiation miracle? Your comment is invalid. . According to reader Wojtek, they sent a letter to the Prosecution Office and, according to Polish law, the prosecutor must now start an investigation or give a very good reason not to do so.. As per his wishes, he is buried in Fatima, Portugal, due to his devotion to our Lady of Fatima. unless there's another place. You also dont get (at least as far as Im concerned) to assume a miracle is any less likely than a natural event; to me, the very fact that were here at all constitutes a miracle of a kind, so that sort of talk comes down to blatant presupposition. Was this a podcast or something? I personally think that if any of these were real, they would have caught much more attention world wide. odder still. As hard as I tried to find the documents of analysis, I could not (and I may have wasted more time looking these up than a normal person would be inclined to). More than a WOW moment. It is not magic for sure, and we use it and understand its actions and reactions, but cannot explain its origin. Forensic pathologist, Dr Robert Lawrence of San Francisco,( the son of the famous nuclear physicist, Dr Ernest Lawrence, who invented the Cyclotron, which split the atom and started the nuclear age), commenting on this case and the case of the statue of Christ which was found to be weeping and shedding human blood, said It would be wonderful if these stories turned out to be, it would be spectacular. The Science of Biology tells us that the cell (like a white blood cell) is the basic unit of life and that it is evidence of life. So many young people have rejected religion as unscientific. So heres the science to prove our faith. In 1970, more than 1,200 years later, the archbishop of Lanciano, with Romes approval, requested a thorough scientific examination of the miraculous relics by Dr. Edward Linoli, director of the hospital at Arezzo and professor of anatomy, histology, chemistry, and clinical microscopy. Such a miracle occured in Poland at the church of Saint Anthony of Padua in Sokolko on Sunday, October 12, 2008. 2013, Legnica, Poland: A consecrated Host fell and was put in water and locked in a tabernacle. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I love how the priests The matter should be approached very carefully and This is a matter requiring restraint means for him talk of it as a paranormal phenomenon. 1) Has a DNA analysis been completed of the heart tissue? That seems much more probable than someone simply slipping a bit of pig heart in the communion bowl. What if they were part of the heart too? The sample that was taken was large enough to carry out all the necessary studies. 2008 miracle is very likely mold -https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/6461051/Miracle-as-communion-wafer-becomes-heart-tissue.html#:~:text=Pawel%20Grzesiowskia%2C%20a%20leading%20biologist,the%20eastern%20village%20of%20Sokolka. On March 30, he created an ecclesial commission to study the phenomenon. The Most Remarkable Miracle of the Middle Ages In 750AD, a priest experienced a terrible temptation to doubt the True Presence while He was saying Mass. He is all alone and hardly anyone thinks of him. I do wish Ascension would delete my reference to the WHO report, as it detracts from all the other provable evidence. And yet, in all the cases, the same results were found, and are consistent with the results of Lanciano, providing even more details due to more advanced science: Dr. Frederick Zugibe, a forensic doctor at Columbia University who examined the Argentinian miracle, did not know the source of the sample and told the doctor who brought it to him, If white blood cells were present (in the heart tissue), it is because at the moment you brought me the sample, it was pulsating. When he learned the source of the sample, he was shocked and deeply moved. I wish Id never mentioned the WHO. In doing it this way, Jesus can bolster the faith of true believers without having all sorts of opportunistic people jumping on the salvation bandwagon. We knew nothing of Dr Zugibes religious belief beforehand and he was told nothing of the origin of the sample. Since the research was long before the internet and the WHO has changed dramatically, the report isnt readily available, although it is referenced by Zenit, a very reputable organization. While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body. Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, saying, Drink from it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. But when scientists investigated, they quickly realized that no miracle was taking place, only physics. The results of the histopathological studies, dated January 21, 2009, were included in the dossier given to the Metropolitan Curia of Bialystok. The other, more probably explanation, is that the whole thing was staged for the benefit of the church. 2) Did the Public Prosecutors Office question all those in contact with these remains? Im really delighted by your cordiality here. Another example of this can be found in the case of a Eucharistic miracle in Sokolka, Poland. For those asking for scientific results: You do not need an annulment to be forgiven. Again, not trying to damper anyones spirits. Many catholics point to these eucharistic miracles as justification for transubstantiation God saying see, my little sheepies, the wafer indeed turns into Jesus/me. A miracle can only be considered an explanation if the alternative is more miraculous than the miracle. He is the local leader who has the authority to declare an event as a miracle. We have not yet observed any mechanism whose origins could be attributed to supernatural beings. 2008, Sokolka, Poland: A consecrated Host fell to the ground during Communion and was put in water and locked in a tabernacle to dissolve. Regardless of the myths of the religious authorities, we must build on the achievements of empirical science and prosecute the crimes listed in the criminal laws, regardless of religious affiliation for those involved. But praying to influence past events? is this it? The Church later rescinded the miracle. 3. So he put it in holy water (to "cleanse" it).. in the you tube video, The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, they stated that a DNA test was done but they could not get a genetic profile. They were all deeply moved by what they saw. Want more from the Friendly Atheist? It may help with your friends. Question after question kept rising up. However, the other onlookers witnessed what has been called a "sun miracle". The Church might be willing to waive it if you speak to someone in your parish: we will not do deliberately do anything to keep you from coming back to God! If science had actually shown that bread and wine had changed to flesh and blood, why was it not front page news, for Science and Religion? See, if atheists read more fiction we wouldnt be shocked by this sort of thing. Furthermore, they noticed the milk dribbling down and pooling on the ground. Jesus, taking ordinary bread, thanks his Father, breaks it with the words. The next day the Host was placed on a white corporal with a small red cross in the centre and placed back in the tabernacle. You also dont get (at least as far as Im concerned) to assume a miracle is any less likely than a natural event. Sister Julia Dubowska, of the Congregation of the Eucharistic Sisters, was the parish sacristan. A Catholic priest in Poland was doing the Holy Communion ritual recently. In order to rule out any doubts, it would have been necessary to carry out molecular and genetic testing, added Chyczewski. In May 1917 in Fatima, Portugal, three children claimed to have encountered the Virgin Mary out in the countryside, who told them she would return on the thirteenth day over the next few months. Check out the great priests and group leaders that travel with Select International tours. Thank you for your interview with Gus Lloyd today on the SiriusXM Catholic Channels Sieze the Day. That said I do appreciate your cautions to me: There is a truth that I dont like to think about that miracles do sometimes excite me more than they ought. Are you aware of any resources like that? Good for them for being the voice of reason. Since the happening of the Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires in 1996 and my reporting of the results in my book Reason to Believe by Ron Tesoriero there have been reports of 3 further similar occurrences in different parts of world. Does a piece of Jesus meat come up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaoaHNhX1pk, The publish link goes nowhere, why is it so hard to get a scientific reviewed paper on any catholic miracles? Copyright 2023 CatholicMom.com. I have to admit it was a little frustrating that these documents are not easily available for the public to read (and be amazed by!). The host was collected and placed into a bowl of water and then placed in the tabernacle so that it may dissolve. This analysis is typically by professional scientists in the field of histopathology associated with a hospital or university. This is a huge argument against the Real Presence by non believers and a no brainer for the Claim of the Real Presence. Hello all, . I have been finding myself in a cloud of stunned amazement. I should add that I was not the most courteous of people in my entry into this conversation, either. All information, or leads for further research, are much appreciated! What evidence of fraud would you expect to find? Address: ul. Finding St. Anthony of Padua Parish church in Sokolka: Sokoka is about 150 miles northeast of Warswa. Others say they dont believe in religion because its just opinion or contrary to reason. Heres quantifiable, measurable, physical evidence. Here are four notable examples: 1. Another example of this can be found in the case of a Eucharistic miracle inSokolka, Poland. The Scientific findings that Dr Zugibe presented to myself, Ron Tesoriero, and Journalist Mike Willesee on 24 April 2004 may prove to be . A Catholic priest in Poland was doing the Holy Communion ritual recently. For more information about these and other Eucharistic Miracles (including pictures), I suggest going through the website called The Real Presence. The complete documentation was given to the Metropolitan Curia of Bialystok. His report, submitted on March 4, 1971, detailed the following results: Until the 1990s, Lanciano was the only proven case of the Eucharist turning into human flesh. kraj i wiat
Z. who hosts thsi blog explains why the wafer is placed in water. WHY? On the other hand, sleight-of-hand is used all the time all over the world to fake similar feats of magic. 4) If these are human remains, stolen from a medical facility, disease could be spread. I love you! By mid-January of 2009, the altered fragment of the host had dried out naturally, and remained like a blood stain or clot; since then, its appearance has not changed. I was telling several catholic friends about Lanciano and Argentina and they had never heard of them before. Thank you, Mabel, please share and get the word out! But you dont get to assume uncharitable things on the matter any more than I get to assume a miracle. Couldnt agree more. The Eucharistic Miracle in Sokolka, Poland, 2008. Surprisingly (even to me a believer) each report back has indicated striking similarities to each of the other Eucharistic Miracles that have been third-party analyzed. Click here to read more about this miracle in detail and view pictures. Ill be sharing with all my non-Catholic friends, and also those who have fallen away from the Church. Or something equally as freaky. The object turned red and it turned out its not a cracker at all. Jane regularly blogs at Its not automatic, its not a form you fill out or something you do like a divorce: its a decision that may go either way. Spend time in Adoration. He accidentally dropped the cracker. The Jewish workers' movement began to organize locally in the late 19 th century; Zionists began activity in the early 20 th century. I concur that it would be wonderful to post the actual scientific report and not just excerpts. * Catholics also believe the Eucharist to be a memorial of the Passion, Death and Resurrection of Jesus and that Jesus offers his living heart in the Eucharist, a heart that has suffered for the love of us. They concluded that the structure of the transformed fragment of the host is identical to the myocardial (heart) tissue of a living person who is nearing death. The facts of this case are stunning. No one else was present. Its a miracle! Like many of us I, Ron Tesoriero, had only relatively recently read that in the history of the Catholic Church there were claims that during the Consecration at a Catholic Mass , bread and wine had transformed into what looked like flesh and blood -so called Eucharistic Miracles. On the Cross, Jesus cried out, I thirst. As many saints have told us, it was not water he was thirsting forit was you. Searching the web indicates that mention of the WHO study is likely an urban legend. In some cases the Church had pronounced them as authentic like the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano, Italy that happened in the 8th Century and was scientifically examined by Professor Linoli in 1970. Who had ever heard of the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano and the scientific evidence? Get our FREE Newsletters and special offers! Its my understanding that even the bible warns against believing false claims of miracle and prophecy. Both are histopathologists at the Medical University of Bialystok. It caused unnecessary controversy for an otherwise well-documented miracle, and is now considered not credible. And, lucky me, I happened to read this right before lunch. 1) Did the Prosecutors Office initiate an investigation to determine the origin of the debris? 2) If a DNA analysis has not been performed, why? Here is where my lay-persons research came to a bit of a block. Unlike cases in early history, I had the privileged opportunity to meet and interview witnesses, to cross examine them, to film their testimonies, to visit the scene of the happenings, and to view in its initial stage the transformed material before any testing was done. At the same time, we have long known that the Earth revolves around the sun, women do not become pregnant without the participation of male sperm, and the wafer is baked with rice flour. The structure of the heart muscle fibers is deeply intertwined with that of the bread, in a way impossible to achieve with human means, according to the declaration of Prof. Maria Sobaniec-Lotowska.. On Holy Thursday, 9 April 2009, by the decision of His Excellency, the church of St. Antoni Padewski in Sokka was raised to the rank of Collegiate Church and the Collegiate Chapter of the Blessed Sacrament was established. We were given complete freedom as to the scientific testing and there was no Church influence. Given that so few people have their DNA in databases odds are they wouldnt catch a clever enough fraud. You shouldnt simply go straight to claiming a miracle because a natural cause is unproven. Out its not a cracker at all religion because its just opinion or contrary reason... 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